Interview: Here's how EIZO® monitors have changed the way I work

A new interview published all over Europe by EIZO®

Publication date: 24 February 2020 - Update date: 09 April 2020
Written by EIZO®
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    Photographer and Photoshop® Expert

    Marianna Santoni is an Italy-based international photographer and a worldwide acclaimed Photoshop® expert. Since 2002 she has been working in between art and technology by combining her background in the humanities with high-level technical skills.
     
    Marianna Santoni, at only 26, became the youngest expert and the first Italian woman selected by Adobe® as an Adobe® Guru for digital imaging. It was back in 2004 and by that time she had already been dealing for some years with advertising photography and photo editing. This important accolade was a turning point for her career and many of the main companies in this field have started to ask for her advice on an international level since then.Today, at 41, she still lives in Italy, but she is away from home over 20 days each month.

     

    For about twenty years, worldwide acclaimed photographers, the main governmental organisations and the leading companies of the sector such as Adobe®, Canon®, Canson,® EIZO®, Elinchrom®, Epson®, Fujifilm®, Hasselblad®, HP®, Nikon®, Microsoft®, Wacom®, X-Rite®have been relying on her.

    For her job she has been using EIZO® monitors for many years.

    In 2018 she was the first Italian woman to become EIZO® Ambassador among a group of 40 professionals and experts selected at international level.

    Photo credits from top left:
    © Fabio Lupparelli | © Ivan Sarfatti
    © Ivan Sarfatti | © Ivan Sarfatti

    How did you approach the EIZO® world?

    Right from the start of my adventure in photography, whenever I had the chance to meet important companies and clients, the EIZO® monitors have always been a constant. At the very beginning of my career I could not afford to buy these monitors, thus, for some years, I could only dream of having one.

    I started to work with monitors that could barely visualise the sRGB… so I had to be extremely good at correcting colour through numbers.

    My skills, my fame and the level of my clients have grown a lot over the years together with the pressure to perform. Therefore, in order to measure up to any situation, I have always devoted so much time and money to studying and, step by step, I have done my best to use devices that could make me feel on the safe side.

    As soon as I could afford a professional monitor I had no doubt about the brand to choose.

     

    How have EIZO® monitors changed your way of working?

    It was a kind of rebirth, both for my eyes, my job and my health.
    After working at 16 bit on Adobe RGB(1998) or ProPhoto RGB, it was a kind of mystical experience to be able to have such a high control, visual as well, over the colours of my images.

    Moreover, many works of mine are for fine-art printing or international magazines. Thanks to my EIZO®, I have finally managed to make print previews with reliable monitors for any output, thus avoiding many additional expenses and useless waste of time. It is quite impossible to always go to the printer’s to check the printing colours personally, or it can be very expensive to make several paper test prints.
    There are effective methods to make predictable printing outputs and a high-end calibrated monitor is paramount to make this happen.

    Most photographers make a serious mistake: they mainly invest on the first part of their workflow, that is, on cameras and lenses, thus neglecting their training and the equipment necessary for the rest of the workflow. This often leads to a very bad colour management (both in software and hardware), from the shooting to post-production up to the final file. This causes them to have many digital imaging problems, useless waste of time during post-production and a really poor quality compared to what their cameras would actually be able to do.

    You mentioned health earlier. How have EIZO® monitors helped you feeling healthier?

    EIZO® monitors are well designed also from this point of view. First the image aspect never changes, from any angle you are watching it. In addition, there is no flickering and no reflection either.

    In the past I often realised that I used to put my body in uncomfortable and unnatural positions to avoid glares, problems with screen viewing, an uncomfortable screen position and height. Back pain was very frequent.

    Photographers and post-producers spend many hours sitting at their workstations and this may lead to ailments such as back pain and eye fatigue. Protecting your eyes and your body is not just a minor detail.

    Only with the EIZO ® monitors I have managed to have a workstation adapted to my needs. Up to then I had always had to adapt myself and habits to the monitor and not the other way round.

    Whether I am sitting at different heights or I am standing in front of the monitor together with my colleagues or clients, the EIZO ® screens meet my personal requirements since their height, tilting and swivelling can be flexibly adjusted.

    Do you remember an anecdote where your high-end monitor proved to be the solution?

    I am going to tell you an episode I will never forget.
    About ten years ago I used to cooperate with a company that often commissioned to me complicated maskings, such as those with hair, moving elements, smoke and many other critical elements.

    I acquired this client when I had been using an EIZO® screen for some time. Everything had always gone smoothly.
    One day that company called me asking for a very urgent masking they had forgotten to ask me.

    That day and in that moment my assistant was working at my workstation, so I decided not to disturb him and to carry out this masking sitting at another workstation with a lower-performing screen, yet so widespread in the graphic world.
    I completed the masking and sent it to my client.
    After a few minutes I got a call from them gently explaining that maybe I had sent the wrong file since the masking was not finished.
    I jumped out of my chair and opened that file again, but there were no mistakes apparently. So, for doubt’s sake, I double-checked that same file on the EIZO® monitor.
    And it was a kind of shock to me! The masking which seemed perfect on the other screen was actually a disaster on the EIZO® monitor: there were blurred edges, halos everywhere… it looked as if it had been done by an amateur or, in the best case scenario, it seemed an unfinished masking.

    To me that episode was a kind of revelation. I had always known the importance of working with a high-end monitor, but, for some reasons, I had always focused on colours only. Yet, its usefulness is specially visible in many other aspects.

    What other problems can be solved with the help of the EIZO® monitors?

     

    This may be a very long list: the colour space size, the hardware calibration and many other features, but I would like to focus on some aspects which are crucial to me and yet these often escape even experienced photographers.

    A professional screen surely helps have a reliable overall view of an image, but it also helps to quickly keep an eye on any defect a digital image may have, even on those defects not related to colour.

    Using lower-performing monitors may be risky when it comes to problems such as: posterizing, banding, moiré or any other type of artefacts.

    In many other case low-end monitors may hide these problems, yet these inevitably come out on other screens or during printing.
    But in some other cases lower-performing monitors may intensify these artefacts or even “invent” them. I happened to see photographers wasting their time on correcting defects which are visible on their screen but that are not actually in the file. If you work like this you will waste time on fixing a defect which is not even in the photo and you will risk to worsen the image instead of improving it.

    To me also high-definition display uniformity is paramount.
    When I work on an image I happen to make different versions to compare them and discuss about them with my team or clients.

    Most monitors on the market have no uniform luminance and colours on screen.
    In order to become more conscious of this problem, I often ask my clients or student to try this: just open the same image on 4 different tabs in the same software and place them side by side on one screen. In most cases you will see 3 or 4 different photos. Or better: the file is the same, but it looks different depending on the monitor area where it is placed to be visualised.
    It is easy to understand that it is a pointless experience to work on a monitor with such a poor performance.
    And not only when it comes to retouching but in any situation where placing two images side by side is essential. I am referring to all the cases where I need to obtain two or more photos with the same chromatic harmony or when I work on a soft proof of my printings: at this stage it is crucial to visualise both versions to make adjustments if needed. Low-end monitors may unnecessarily complicate such easy operations.

    Another essential feature to me – and this is hard to find even on high-end screens – is the ability to see the image sharpness in a reliable way. EIZO® monitors have such a low dot pitch and an excellent PPI to ensure a superb pixel density: this is of utmost importance to have a reliable view of the photo sharpness. Thanks to this I can better adjust the Unsharp Mask (or other similar filters) which is essential in a good workflow. These kinds of corrections are often very difficult to check on other types of monitor and the result gets out of control thus ending up with bad outcomes both on the monitors and during printing.

    Lastly, especially if you print on fine-art paper, a screen able to show you a uniform greyscale, from lights to shadows is fundamental.
    This is true for coloured and black-and-white images as well.

    Interview with Marianna Santoni for EIZO® published on the official website EIZO® Global.

    Interview with Marianna Santoni for EIZO® published by the magazine IL FOTOGRAFO.

    Interview with Marianna Santoni for EIZO® published on the official website EIZO® Cecoslovacchia.

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    Stefano Fristachi 01/03/2022 11:10

    Ciao Marianna,
    potresti darci il tuo prezioso consiglio sul livello di luminosità a cui tenere i monitor EIZO?
    Grazie di tutto, non smettere mai di aprirci e proteggerci gli occhi!

    Flavia Bombardieri 05/05/2021 20:49

    Grazie mille Marianna!

    Non devi proprio scusarti per i troppi contenuti, di cui invece ti ringrazio molto e anzi, mi piacerebbe approfondire sempre di più!
    Perdonami invece se ti ho risposto con ritardo, ho voluto prima approfondirli tutti. Alcuni li avevo già visti e mi ero anche iscritta alla newsletter in attesa dei prossimi tutorial, ma altri mi erano sfuggiti!

    Ammetto che ho veramente tanto da studiare ancora in questo campo. Ma già sapere che erano i miei interventi sull'immagine ad enfatizzare i problemi di visualizzazione, mi ha spinta ad un nuovo approccio che mi sta aiutando e portando nella giusta direzione...

    Grazie ancora e spero di avere la possibilità di conoscerti presto ad un tuo corso.

    Un carissimo saluto a te
    Flavia

    Marianna Santoni 06/05/2021 10:31

    Grazie Flavia per tutta la cura e attenzione che hai dedicato alla mia risposta.

    Se c'è una cosa che il mio lavoro mi ha insegnato è che continuare a studiare sempre è la sola per via.

    Ti mando un caro saluto e spero avremo modo di conoscerci presto.

    M.

     

    Flavia Bombardieri 15/04/2021 18:21

    Ciao Marianna,
    quest’estate ho avuto l’occasione di acquistare l’EIZO CG2420, inutile dire che la differenza con il vecchio monitor, seppur già buono, si vede eccome!
    Ma utilizzandolo è venuta fuori una problematica, un po’ rognosetta, e mi piacerebbe chiederti in che modo la gestisci.
    Non parlo delle dominanti colore, che variano di dispositivo in dispositivo, sulle quali mi sono già rassegnata anni fa. Ma delle due modalità di lettura che variano a seconda che il software legga o meno il profilo colore.
    Come saprai, tra i software che leggono il profilo colore ci sono: i programmi Adobe, il vecchio Visualizzatore Windows, i browser Chrome ed Explorer; l’iPhone (e quindi credo anche i programmi Mac). Le stampe sono fedeli a questa lettura.
    Tra quelli che non li leggono: la App Foto e le miniature di Windows, Firefox, gli smartphone.
    Questi ultimi danno una versione di molto più satura, e purtroppo non si può evitare che alcune persone vedano queste foto ‘scorrette’.
    Ho provato a vedere le tue splendide fotografie su Chrome e su Firefox. Entrambe le versioni sono deliziose; mentre molte delle mie, specie le più calde e rosate, risultano così sature da ferire l’occhio!
    L’EIZO ha accentuato tutto ciò, perché le vedo meno sature rispetto al vecchio monitor. Molto più fedeli alla stampa, ma almeno prima ero portata ad abbassare di più la saturazione, quindi anche se letta scorrettamente, non arrivava mai ad essere ‘sparata’ e inguardabile. Immagina il panico quando mi accorsi di questa cosa solo dopo aver consegnato il lavoro ad un cliente!
    Sarei curiosa di sapere se la versione ‘originale’ delle tue foto è quella più o meno satura, sono entrambe così belle che non saprei dirlo. Se fai una versione per la stampa e una per il web, o se le lavorazioni tengono conto della forbice entro cui devi mantenerti (io ogni volta esporto, controllo e aggiusto, con gran spreco di tempo; oltretutto dopo l’intervento di ‘contenimento’ della saturazione, alcune immagini appaiono troppo ‘smorte’ se viste correttamente e/o stampate). O se invece è merito di una corretta e superprofessionale postproduzione fotografica, che interviene già in partenza sulle tonalità del rosso.
    Se si trattasse di un ‘segreto’ del mestiere lo capirei, ma io ci provo :)
    Ti ringrazio per l’attenzione e scusami se ho scritto troppo!
    Buon lavoro!
    Flavia

    Marianna Santoni 22/04/2021 11:30

    Ciao Flavia,
    grazie per il messaggio e scusami per l'attesa.

    Conosco molto bene il problema di cui mi parli. È frustrante. Tutti presto o tardi finiamo per farci i conti.
    Oltre alle legittime esigente su foto artistiche, immagina le difficoltà sulla riproduzione del colore che vivono le aziende e-commerce che vendono capi d'abbigliamento o altro on line.

    Fotografi e gestori di siti e-commerce hanno in pratica lo stesso problema sui colori, ma il modo in cui possono risolverlo è diverso.

    Come mi hai giustamente scritto il tuo nuovo EIZO ha reso la stampa molto fedele al monitor. Questo è un ottimo punto di partenza. Vuol dire che, in linea di massima, la gestione del colore che fai è corretta. Brava!

    Purtroppo, come stai vivendo sulla tua pelle, la rappresentazione dei colori a monitor è meno controllabile perchè alcuni software o browser non gestiscono correttamente i profili colore.

    Cosa fare quindi?

    In realtà vera la chiave del tuo problema specifico non è legata alla gestione del colore, ma alla correzione del colore.

    Se i colori di una foto sono corretti e armoniosi, appaiono tali anche quando sono più saturi o meno saturi.

    Se ti sembra che le tue foto troppo spente e innaturali quando le desaturi oppure ti appaiono sballate e disarmoniche quando diventano più sature è probabile che il problema risieda soprattutto nel tipo di correzione del colore che esegui. In merito a questo puoi leggere questo articolo che spiega proprio perchè un buon monitor di qualità ben calibrato non risolve tutti i problemi legati al colore.

    Cosa puoi fare quindi per risolvere il tuo problema?
    Il mio consiglio è di alzare il tuo livello sulla correzione del colore: dal bilanciamento del bianco al color grading. Sono aspetti cruciali che ribalteranno la qualità delle tue immagini.
    So che spesso argomenti come la correzione del bilanciamento del bianco possono suonare "banali" a fotografi ormai affermati. Eppure è proprio nel bilanciamento del bianco, spesso fatto troppo "al volo" e "a occhio" che spesso si annidano la maggior parte delle criticità di una post-produzione fotografica.
    Considera che nel corso di 3 giorni che tengo in aula sullo sviluppo del RAW dedico circa 6-8 ore ai due soli cursori del Bilanciamento del bianco. Hai capito bene: 6-8 ore sul Bilanciamento del bianco in un corso che in tutto dura 20 ore!

    Sembra assurdo, ma il "semplice" bilanciamento del bianco è uno dei "segreti" più sottovalutati e meno sfruttati dalla maggiorparte dei fotografi e post-produttori.

    So che ti ho bombardato di contenuti da andare a vedere, ma spero ti saranno di aiuto.
    Aggiungo ai tanti anche questo webinar dove parlo, tra le altre cose, anche degli errori più comuni che vedo fare sul colore da parte di chi usa Photoshop (o altri software).

    Spero che questa mia risposta potrà esserti d'aiuto.
    Fammi sapere.

    Intanto ti mando un carissimo saluto.
    M.

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